Jules was swimming in the ocean on the weekend when a surfer was killed by a shark at a nearby beach. She got back to the beach okay, but it got her thinking a lot about sharks. Jules and guest host Darren Saunders chat about sharks, shark nets and spending time in the water.

And should your kid go to university? There have been plenty of funding cuts, so are our tertiary institutions as good as they once were?

Julia Baird and Darren Saunders chat about the stories you're obsessed with, the stuff you've missed and the things that matter. Episodes drop every Wednesday afternoon. We want to hear from you! Join the conversation and email the show at notstupid@abc.net.au

SHOW NOTES

Darren's pick: https://chemistry.anu.edu.au/research/research-facilities/samsara

Julia's pick: https://www.dadletterproject.com/