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Outrage Overload: Staying grounded through science and balanced perspectives
Outrage Overload: Staying grounded through science and balanced perspectives
Episode • Oct 18, 2023 • 27m

How Recognizing Fear and Pain Can Heal Our Divided Society


In this episode of the Outrage Overload podcast, host David Beckemeyer interviews psychotherapist and author Phyllis Levitt. We discuss her new book, “America in Therapy” in which she describes the anger and division in American society, the importance of listening and understanding different perspectives, and the need for mental health education and awareness. Leavitt emphasizes the role of therapy in promoting healthy relationships and explores how these principles can be applied on a larger scale to heal the divides in our country.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Psychotherapy is nonpartisan and can provide a bridge between opposing views.
  2. Deep listening and inquiry are essential for understanding and connecting with others.
  3. Repairing human relationships is harder than waging war, but it is necessary for healing and reconciliation.
  4. Mental health education is crucial for promoting empathy, understanding, and healthy relationships.
  5. The United States needs to embrace a sense of sovereign unity, balancing individuality with a commitment to the welfare of the whole.


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