29. Marxist board games and smart thinking with Geoff Lloyd and Ed Miliband

Radio presenter Geoff Lloyd and Former Labour Party Leader Ed Miliband - joint hosts of the Reasons to be Cheerful podcast - join Fi and Jane for a wide-ranging interview at the BBC Media Cafe. Fi asks Ed what’s going to happen. Jane patronises Ed… and Ed patronises Jane.

Plus not winning awards, dog shows and tripping over!