The Ringer's BIll Simmons is joined by Kirk Goldsberry for an all-positive NBA discussion on the exciting NBA talent pool, the contending Cavaliers, and a better than advertised Eastern Conference (01:28). Then they discuss the surging Knicks, Victor Wembanyama's development, how the Hawks are finally rounding out their roster (18:10), the trade machine Nets, Nikola Jokic, the newly fun Pistons, the "zombie" Magic, how the Lakers are turning their season around, a fun 2024 draft class, the good-vibes Clippers, and more (49:37).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Kirk Goldsberry

Producers: Kyle Crichton and Chia Hao Tat

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