In this episode of The Catholic Talk Show, Ryan & Ryan discuss the perception that Pope Leo hasn't been that exciting and why it's exactly what the Church needs.

00:00 The Need for a Boring Pope

06:08 Pope Leo's Stability and Quiet Leadership

12:12 The Role of Media in Papal Perception

18:20 The Importance of Stability in a Changing World

24:09 Looking Ahead: The Future of the Papacy

30:17 Conclusion: Embracing Ordinary Leadership

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