Justice Horn grew up in a family where sport was second nature.
His parents were involved in athletics; an uncle played in the NFL; a sister played volleyball - the list goes on and on.
For Justice, it was wrestling where he found his love - first at high school, and then at collegiate level at Northern State University in South Dakota.
As a black, gay man in a predominantly straight, Caucasian sport, Justice had to blaze his own trail - and that's just one of the fascinating things we chat about in today's episode.
We also discuss what made Justice switch to rugby; why he's using his platform to help drive change; how the pandemic has impacted on his family; and how he switches off from sport.
It's a fascinating chat with a really interesting man - and we think you'll enjoy it.
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