Rachel's guest this week is Strong Towns member and contributor, Arian Horbovetz, who blogs at The Urban Phoenix and lives in Rochester, New York. He discusses the universal challenges that Rust Belt towns deal with, his optimistic yet pragmatic view on urban revitalization, and his sociologist's perspective on these trends.

Mentioned in this podcast:

• TheUrbanPhoenix.com
• The Big Urban Mistake: Building for Tourism vs. Livability by Arian Horbovetz
• Join us tomorrow for a Strong Towns presentation and Meet-up in Thompsonville, MI
• The New Localism: How Cities Can Thrive in the Age of Populism by Bruce Katz and Jeremy Nowak (also check out our January 2018 podcast interview with Bruce Katz about this book)
• The Impolite Company podcast