Emmy-winning journalist Elle Reeve has spent years inside the darkest corners of the internet, tracking the rise of radicalized young men who call themselves “blackpilled.” Her new book, "Black Pill: How I Witnessed the Darkest Corners of the Internet, Come to Life, Poison Society, and Capture American Politics," uncovers an online world of conspiracy, hopelessness, and hate and shows how it’s already bleeding into real life. Reeve joins Ian Hoch to talk about how memes become manifestos, why so many young men are falling down the rabbit hole, and what it’s going to take to pull them back out.