On this week's New Statesman podcast, George Eaton and Lucy Fisher talk to Caroline Crampton about Labour's need to engage the blue-collar vote, N​S editor Jason Cowley explains why Brazil will be the last authentic World Cup tournament, Philip Maughan talks to Baileys and Goldsmiths Prize-winning novelist Eimear McBride, and Yo Zushi interviews Texas-based musician Jerry David DeCicca, frontman of the Black Swans, who plays us out.

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