In our second interview podcast of July 2018, Doug Stilwell shares lessons learned on his transition from a public school administrator to a professor of education at Drake University, once bitten by the Deming philosophy. 

(This is Tripp's second interview with Doug.  Link here for the first interview.)

Highlights include:

• Continued impact of new education methods in the Urbandale Community School District
• How to bring more of Dr. Deming’s ideas into higher education?
• How to impact the next generation of leaders in education?
• Drake’s Continual Improvement Network
• What happens when students leave Doug’s classes?
• Network improvement communities
• “The system always wins”
• Moving away from the A-F grading system
• Shifting from a “time rigid / learning flexible” system to a “time flexible / learning rigid” system