Sammy & Don Appah are two brothers living in London and are the hosts of 'The Family' podcast. Kyrin connected with them via Instagram and loved their mix of humorous banter with deep philosophical questionings. The brothers kindly made themselves available for a discussion on some topics that immediately jump out when listening to their podcast.

The convo started off with some personal role models that have had a big impact for both Sammy and Don. This led into the commonality of the traits that they exhibit. With the recent BLM protests across the world the brothers gave a unique perspective on racism and an ideal world where this problem is solved. Finishing up we talked about family and why across human history we all tend to be drawn to 'home', wherever and however it is defined.

Timeline:

0:00 - Introduction

2:46 - Initial connection

3:49 - What's the difference between a role model & entertainer

6:14 - Don's personal role models

11:14 - Sammy's personal role models

17:56 - Divorcing the person and their ideas/traits

23:25 - Commitment to making oneself better

25:37 - Authenticity

30:50 - Racism: No utopias and equal treatment

44:30 - Holding competing views at the same time

45:51 - Strong views held loosely

48:56 - The roots of 'The Family' podcast

58:27 - What is the call of home?

1:04:08 - Different cultures through a different filter

1:09:07 - Connecting with 'The Family'

Connect with Sammy & Don:

The Family Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefamilypodcast/

Sammy's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/s_isforsammy/

Don's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/don.speaks/