Former member of Spain's Council of the Judiciary Alfons Lopez Tena on Catalan's fight for independence, the importance of the region to the Spanish government, the similarities between Brexit and what's happening in Catalonia, how politicians peddle falsehoods to 'lead societies down a blind alley'  and the rise of authorisation governments. 

You can find out more about him on Twitter at @AlfonsLopezTena and at Facebook.com/AlfonsLopezTena

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