Why is biogas less 'sexy' than hydrogen? You will start to hear much more about the ‘hippie gas’, which is biogas/biomethane, to decarbonize the electricity grid, cooking, and shipping (among other things). This is the topic of the latest Energy Vista podcast. Leslie Palti-Guzman exchanges with Karen Sund on the growth prospects of biogas/biomethane, as a renewable, sustainable gas that will contribute to the circular economy. Karen is also sharing her passion about understanding full energy systems (local, national, international) and her obligation to say something, be outspoken. This episode was recorded on Jun. 11, 2021.