Dillan interviews Chris Orzechowski.

Chris runs The Email Copywriter. He's a world-class emailer, direct response marketer, and the #1 kielbasa salesman on the planet. He’s helped e-commerce brands, creators, and consultants generate millions through storytelling and email content writing.

They discuss: how to sell to your audience without being sleazy, building an audience of buyers and #1 fans, the real reason most creators fail, what separates amateurs from pros, how to build systems that print money, and much more.

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Chris's links...

Website: https://theemailcopywriter.com/

Twitter / X: https://x.com/chrisorzy

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@chris-orzy

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0:00 Intro
0:37 Being different vs being better
7:17 Why most people give up
14:18 Pros vs amateurs
29:12 Be the architect of your life/business
39:51 Why start an email list?
49:00 How to get your first 100 email subscribers
51:57 Using ads to get subscribers
53:59 What makes a good vs crappy lead magnet?
56:07 Common emailing mistakes
1:03:14 What's getting easier / harder?
1:05:59 #1 lesson Chris learned the hard way
1:08:04 Chris’s hot take on content
1:09:48 Chri's favorite creator
1:13:35 What Chris sacrificed to grow his business
1:16:50 Chris’s advice for new creators
1:19:23 Bye bye bye