In this episode, @definikola from DeFi Saver joins us to discuss balancing quality and quantity, catching blue-chip protocols early, and DeFi Saver's business model. We also touch on the dominance of blue-chip apps, the importance of user control and what’s next for DeFi Saver.

00:00 - Introduction to DeFi Saver
02:55 - Balancing quality and quantity
04:51 - New products and new users
07:07 - Catching blue-chip protocols early
10:36 - How not tracking users impacts building products
12:35 - DeFi Saver’s business model
17:55 - Recipes and novel use cases
22:23 - Why blue-chip apps dominate
23:50 - Why more people don’t use UX layers
27:23 - Frontend fees
29:18 - Giving control to users
32:52 - The pros and cons of having a token
36:22 - Integrating passkeys to DeFi Saver
37:66 - What’s next from DeFi Saver

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