Hosts: Andy and Pete (recorded at City Beach, Perth)

Episode Overview: The inaugural episode explores how AI will transform business models, where value will accrue, and strategic approaches for businesses adapting to AI.

Key Discussion Points:

• Value Shift in AI: The hosts argue that value in AI won't primarily accrue to companies like OpenAI but to traditional service businesses that leverage AI to transform their operations.
• Transformation of Traditional Businesses: Businesses with language-heavy workflows and high human labor costs can use AI to shift the "unit of intelligence" from humans to scalable AI systems, potentially achieving software-style margins.
• Hyper-Localization: Pete predicts a future where power and control shift to small businesses that can leverage commodity intelligence, rather than large centralized players.
• SaaS Evolution: Discussion about whether SaaS business models will decline as AI enables more custom-built solutions specific to individual business needs, reducing dependency on one-size-fits-all platforms.
• App Players vs. Agentic Workflows: The hosts debate whether there will be an "app player renaissance" or if agentic workflows will eliminate the need for traditional application interfaces.
• First Principles Thinking: Businesses need to reimagine their processes from first principles rather than simply adding AI tools to existing workflows.
• Human Role Transformation: A key insight is the shift of humans from being central to business processes to working "at the edge" - where humans become interfaces with the real world while AI handles core processes.
• The Value Trap: Andy and Pete introduce the concept of the "value trap" - where initial AI efficiency gains create massive value, but competition eventually erodes pricing power, potentially creating challenging transitions.
• Transformation Strategies: Discussion of whether businesses should create "digital twins" (like Netflix did when moving from DVDs to streaming) or transform their existing operations.