In this episode (part 2) sponsored by mywindowbox.com Joff Elphick talks to John Sales about his early days at The National Trust (1972-1998)

We find out how The Trust has changed, choosing trees with GST, policy making, or not, and The garden History Society and Westbury Court.

Also, visiting Vita, Pam, and Sybil.'Nookiness'. Should the Trust be more selective? Easter egg hunts at Hidcote. WHY? Grahams humble hatchback, and THE best place for a top class valet.

Plus more inside information. You heard it here first!