"I think the Declaration of Independence is the most perfect expression of the human aspiration in a corporeal sense... I think the Constitution is a waste of time and paper."

Brian speaks with Don Williams, retired Senior Furniture Conservator at the Smithsonian Institution’s Center for Materials Research and Education (SCMRE) and author of the book, SAVING STUFF.   

Don Williams is a conservator, educator, scholar and all-around inquisitive guy, having worked on some of the most interesting objects and historic buildings in our nation's public and private collections. He has developed, managed and presented educational programming on an array of subjects in the fields of conservation, woodworking and wood finishing, and has published and presented scholarly research on subjects like ancient coating materials and craft techniques, and created pioneering uses for traditional and modern materials, including some of his own invention.

In his spare time he passionately pursues his varied interests, including economics, metal casting, collecting obscure books and tools, Japanese gardening and faith, all of which usually occur against a backdrop of jazz or podcast lectures on various arcane topics.

Brian Wilson is a nationally-known radio and television host, author, speaker, and consultant with more than 50 years experience in media as host, News/Program Director, and Owner. His periodic scribblings can be found on Substack and his website. On Facebook, check out Brian's page along with his 50 Stories: 50 Years in Radio page and of course, the Now For Something Completely Different Facebook page. Brian's books can be found on Amazon.