Recording date: 2018-09-13
John Papa https://twitter.com/john_papa
Ward Bell https://twitter.com/wardbell
Dan Wahlin https://twitter.com/danwahlin
(0:03:30) Ward asks Dan when there are too many end to end tests
(0:04:23) Dan talks about how he got into end to end tests
(0:06:42) Ward talks about how he approaches testing a component
(0:07:50) Dan talks about how deep routes in javascript frameworks help end to end testing
(0:10:00) John asks Dan about how testing workflows can be a sweet spot for end to end tests
(0:10:47) John asks Dan how he uses id vs class in elements to locate what he wants to test
(0:12:20) Dan mentions how he uses css selectors to locate what he wants to test
(0:12:50) Ward says don't drill down through your HTML to locate elements for testing
(0:15:47) Dan talks about his experience with Protractor and Selenium https://www.seleniumhq.org/
(0:16:26) Dan talks about how he uses Cypress.io https://www.cypress.io/
(0:18:40) Dan talks abot how Cypress.io doesn't work in all browsers
(0:19:10) Ward mentions how he uses Test Cafe http://devexpress.github.io/testcafe/
(0:19:50) Dan discusses his pain points for testing child routing without end to end tests
(0:21:00) Dan says he wrote his first 5 or 10 tests with Cypress within an hour
(0:21:36) Ward says end to end tests can be more fragile and slower than unit tests
(0:21:56) Ward says his large team uses end to end tests because it makes sure that nobody breaks anybody else
(0:24:25) Dan says Cypress is pretty fast to run
(0:24:58) Dan says he uses TypeScript a lot
(0:25:20) John asks Dan "how fast is fast?"
(0:27:00) John asks Dan to clarify how he handles authenticating during an end to end test
(0:28:30) Ward asks Dan how if he opens the browser for each test, or once for the entire sequence of tests
(0:30:00) Dan disucsses how he uses containers for testing
(0:21:40) Edge browser https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge
(0:23:37) Sauce Labs https://saucelabs.com/
(0:31:28) John talks about security expert Brian Clark https://twitter.com/_clarkio
(0:32:10) Ward discusses how animations can cause tests to run slower
(0:33:30) Dan says Cypress is good at responding in github
(0:34:03) Cypress on twitter https://twitter.com/Cypress_io
(0:34:14) Cypress github issues https://github.com/cypress-io/cypress/issues
(0:38:25) Dan talks about Electron https://electronjs.org/
(0:39:00) Dan talks about time travel in cypress's test tools
(0:42:03) Cross browser testing in Cypress.io https://github.com/cypress-io/cypress/issues/310
(0:49:00) John asks Dan about how you can use npm install for cypress
(0:50:19) Dan talks about how it works (Cypress.io) https://www.cypress.io/how-it-works/
(0:51:10) Cypress Docs https://docs.cypress.io/guides/overview/why-cypress.html
(0:53:47) Someone to follow: Brandon Roberts https://twitter.com/brandontroberts
(0:54:05) Someone to follow: Tracy Lee https://twitter.com/ladyleet and https://www.thisdot.co/labs
(0:55:00) Someone to follow: Netanel Basal https://twitter.com/NetanelBasal and https://github.com/datorama/akita
(0:55:48) Someone to follow: Alyssa Nicoll https://twitter.com/AlyssaNicoll
More Resources
Wahlin Consulting (https://codewithdan.com)