In this candid and wide-ranging episode, Wes and Craig dive deep into the meaning and purpose of church membership—asking hard questions like:Is official membership biblical or just organizational?Does signing a church covenant change your relationship with Christ?What are the risks and rewards of committing to a local church body?They also reflect on personal purpose in work and ministry, sharing real-life struggles about calling, midlife redirection, and trusting God’s timing in career and service.Other highlights:Reflections on the surprise election of the first American Pope—Leo XIV.A rapid-fire rundown of historical Popes named Leo.Obelisks, Babylonian symbolism, and Vatican oddities.A heartfelt discussion on finding meaning at work (with nods to Tim Keller’s wisdom).Comparing church membership to joining a club—and where the line of accountability and spiritual commitment really lies.📬 Get Connected: Subscribe to the newsletter at onthishill.org → Click “About” > then “Subscribe HERE” 📧 Email: onthishillpodcast@pm.me with questions, prayer requests, or comments.🧭 Value for Value:This podcast is listener-supported. If you find value here, help fuel the mission by subscribing to the newsletter and sharing out these episodes… Soon we’ll have a way for you to support the show with monetary value too. :)