Bec and Nat talk to Steve Patterson, Canadian stand-up and host of CBC's "The Debaters, about being a dad to two girls. He reads one of his favourite stories from his new book “Dad Up!” and chats about what it’s like to parent two young girls as an “old” dad.  They talk about forgiving themselves as parents and how mothers might be harder on themselves overall. Also, Steve shouts out his stellar wife Nancy and the mom she is. 

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