Ross and Matt discuss the Santa Monica budget crisis at a 30k ft level, then dive into discussions with former Chief Sustainable Officer Dean Kubani (17:46) about why environmental values should be considered essential, and insight to his hopes for how they will make decisions around the cuts. He also gives us a great nugget at (44:45) Former Michael Feinstein (47:02) discusses the decisions that had to be made as Mayor during 9-11, and some parallels to the current crisis. Mike talks about income inequality in city salaries, possible creative solutions, and philosophically how he would be looking at this if he were on City Council. Mike has spoken to many people in and out of the city, to unions, to council members, and has a unique, informed perspective.