Guest co-host Baratunde Thurston tells Kara what he'd pay to hear Rudy Giuliani say on Cameo. Kara pulls no punches on the politicization of vaccines. They discuss the implications of the latest census data, and answer a listener question about what CNN should do about Chris Cuomo. Plus, Baratunde has a prediction about the future of the auto industry, and Kara reveals what she'd do if she had as much money as Jeff Bezos.

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