Evan Kaloudis, founder of Zeus, joins Keith to break down what's new in Zeus v13 — and why it might be the most important Bitcoin wallet release for everyday payments in years. At the core of v13 is the "graduated wallet" — an experience that starts with Cashu eCash for instant, zero-friction onboarding, then gently guides users toward self-custody Lightning as their balance grows. Evan explains why he calls it the "Bitcoin Sherpa" approach: the wallet teaches you, grows with you, and never forces you to start over in a new app. They also get into the weeds on Cashu vs. Spark privacy (and why Wallet of Satoshi and the new Tether wallet have made Spark's privacy problems even worse than they need to be), what Square's merchant rollout means for Bitcoin adoption, and why building the Bitcoin circular economy is a "mega marathon" that could take 30-40 years. What you'll learn: What the Zeus v13 graduated wallet is and why it matters for beginners and merchants Why Cashu's privacy model beats Spark, Arc, and most other Lightning L2s How to onboard a merchant with Zeus v13 in minutes, no channels required Why Wallet of Satoshi's Spark implementation exposes your balance to everyone you transact with Evan's honest take on the biggest roadblocks to Bitcoin as everyday money Where Evan stands on Sats as the Standard vs. BIP 177 LINKS: ZEUS - https://zeusln.com/ Zeus Twitter/X - https://x.com/ZeusLN Zeus Nostr - https://primal.net/zeus Evan Twitter/X - https://x.com/evankaloudis Evan Nostr - https://primal.net/evan FOLLOW ME (Keith): NOSTR - primal.net/keithmeola WEBSITE - keithmeola.com EVERYDAY BITCOIN NOSTR -https://njump.me/npub17rml5yu5ykjezt7ktw3rysffty4pevcv9y2xl2832sa3hqgkaxxqufcva2 EVERYDAY BITCOIN WEBSITE - everydaybitcoinpod.com If you enjoy Everyday Bitcoin, be sure to subscribe and leave a review! FOUNTAIN| SPOTIFY| APPLE| YOUTUBE If you found value in the show, please consider giving value back with a zap: [email protected]