Ronen Hirsch is a polymath who's spent the last couple of decades in retreat and deep practice. Check out his webpage to find out more about him. This conversation is a first in an intent to do more on the topic with Ronen. We come together to explore how we can actually meaningfully create regenerative conditions here on earth. We take a look at the work that Ronen has been doing in discovering a generative sequence for 'crewing'. We dig into Christopher Alexanders work and we circle the topic of what meaningful work looks like - and what we need to do to get there. This is one of the most potent and powerful conversation I've hosted on the podcast to this date. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul