Vicki Saunders (LI) founder of Coralus and I spoke of the new ways of building business, systems transformation, the power of generosity and kindness. What happens when you get 7000 women together and let the community direct investments? What happens when you realise just how expensive control is and how cheap trust is? What are the metaphors that can set us free? We speak of transformation as a step by step approach and our power, agency and responsibility to build a world that works for us. Listen to this one! Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul