Indiana University education professor David Rutkowski joins us to talk about school assessment tools and outcomes inside the state of Indiana, across US states, and internationally, with lots of surprises. Going beyond the headlines and politics, results may not be what you think. David explains why schools are more than their assessments and why it's important for us to be smart about these measurements. We also touch on school finance and racial deviations, and Jennifer talks about her experience going to a Parisian lycée in the eighth grade. An accessible episode about an essential national topic.

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