"Bitcoin doesn't need more believers. Bitcoin needs more understanders." Shadrach & Gigi take a walk in Madeira. Recorded during SEC-07. Listen on sovereignengineering.io Projects & tech mentioned: Archipelago (sovereign home node and mesh network platform) Archipelago Foundation Archipelago promo video AtoB (interoperable service protocol, co-authored with Gzuuus) Angor (Bitcoin-native crowdfunding; Archipelago placed 2nd in the Angor pitch contest) Podcasting 2.0 (open podcast ecosystem) #DeMu (decentralized music on Nostr) Fountain (podcasting app with value-for-value) castr.me (Nostr-to-RSS podcast feed) Indie Hub (independent film distribution on Archipelago) Plebeian Market / Shopstr / Conduit (Nostr marketplaces) Zap Store (Nostr-based app store) Fedimint (federated eCash) / Cashu (eCash on Bitcoin) Framework (modular laptop hardware) Meshtastic / Meshcore (mesh networking) Start9 / Umbrel (existing node platforms) GrapheneOS (privacy-focused Android) In this dialogue: The episode opens discussing the podcasting 2.0 publishing workflow: AI models can now generate the XML spec, value splits and all Spencer's idea: every venue gets an npub, the venue starts the live stream rather than the artist Shadrach's #DeMu journey: tried to orange pill Austin musicians, but they were too disillusioned. Pay-to-play venues, Spotify killing label revenue. Value for value as social signaling: free-to-play games make millions from cosmetic skins. Adam Curry gets it -- his listeners aren't listeners, they're producers.