Randal Rauser is a Christian, John Loftus is a former-Christian-now-atheist. They have co-authored the book God Or Godless? debating 20 controversial questions.

They join Justin for two discussions. In his Outsider Test for Faith Loftus claims that Christians would abandon their faith if they critiqued it in the way they do other religions. But Rauser argues that Loftus needs to put his own atheistic worldview through the test.

They also debate whether stories of miracles can count as evidence of the supernatural.

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For The Outsider Test For Faith book http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Outsider-Test-Faith-Religion/dp/1616147377

For Randal Rauser http://randalrauser.com/

For John Loftus http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.co.uk

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