We briefly discuss Klint Kubiak getting a second interview with the Seahawks before reacting to former MLB catcher Alex Avila on Wyman and Bob talking about what the M's need from some of their stars this year. Then, ESPN's Dan Orlovsky joins us to discuss why he's a fan of Klint Kubiak's scheme, how it compares to Ryan Grubb's system and what he would do with Geno Smith and DK Metcalf moving forward.