8. Discovering the ugly reality of systems thinking

What is on your white board when you are leading change?

Pictures and profiles identifying key people? Lines and Arrows analysing systems?

I am intuitively the first. My white board is full of people.

Sarah Henry has been thinking a lot about being a member of

the expedition. And she took me on  “the way you think Julia sort of implies the problem is women, when actually its the systems that don't work. Or rather they do, because they were designed to work for men”.

So this podcast is devoted to systems thinking.

And then I spoke to Alia Whitney-Johnson and Melissa Kwee who have achieved so much in Sri Lanka, California and Singapore through smart systems thinking .

Their white boards seem to be a mixture of pictures and arrows. People and systems. They say the sweat spot is where the two meet. Sarah is right.