Dave praises the under-recognized excellence of Asian food in the San Gabriel Valley (2:35) before he and Chris Ying interview former Navy SEAL commander Mike Hayes about his new book ‘Never Enough: A Navy SEAL Commander on Living a Life of Excellence, Agility, and Meaning’ and its many leadership lessons that chefs can adapt to help manage kitchens (8:57).

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