Join Indiana University College of Arts & Sciences Executive Dean Rick Van Kooten for a terrific conversation, ranging from capitalism to fruit flies. In between we talk about  what's included in the College and why, Rick's history at the school (being Canadian and all), experimental physics, research funding, and the first uses of the World Wide Web (probably a lot more fun than what you think). We dig deep into the value and cost of a liberal arts education and mull over alternatives in apprenticeships and technical training. We also talk about how real science and "science" has been used during the pandemic. This episode was recorded in Jennifer's hometown of Bloomington, Indiana and at her alma mater, so it was a chance for some nostalgic thoughts about what she studied at IU and her father's work in the Physics Department where Rick also worked and eventually became the chair. A thoughtful and thought-provoking episode.

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