As California slowly reopens, people are hitting the beaches, going to church, maybe meeting up with family members. But one thing Californians look forward to all year is still off the table: the big community festivals, fairs, concerts and art bazaars. Many of them won't take place until next year. Our guests are Sara Diederich and Melissa Kohout, the founders of the Jackalope Arts festival, which has been holding events in Pasadena, Burbank and Denver since 2015.

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