On this episode, Enkeshi and Pumpkin welcome wildlife biologist, writer, and poet, Dr. J Drew Lanham. Originally interviewed at Black in Appalachia's live show for the University of Tennessee's "Black Ecologies Week", we discuss and riff about birds, nature, and Appalachian South Carolina. We discuss his memoir "The Home Place: Memoirs of a Colored Man's Love Affair with Nature", as well as his lessons from being a birdwatcher.