Mark talks with two of the world's most knowledgeable food experts, Jennifer Clapp and Raj Patel, about why the Ukrainian conflict affects the US food supply in such a profound way, whether or not we have an actual global food system, and why the hell we're okay with a "base threshold" of hunger levels.
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