The thoughtful and talented chef talks to Mark and Kate about why she named her dinner series and new book Code Noir, after a monstrous set of French regulations put into effect by Louis XIV; why some island cultures gradually veer towards the cultural homogeneity of the US; why pulling on heartstrings is sometimes the best way; and her showboat recipe.

Find the recipe for Lelani Lewis's Plantain and Pumpkin Curry on the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/lelani-lewiss-plantain-and-pumpkin-curry/

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