“I don’t believe in Utopia anymore. I’m too old for that.” Calle & Gigi philosophize about nuts. Books and articles mentioned:- Who Owns the Future?- The Cathedral And The Bazaar- Cryptography is Not Enough- Bitcoin is Time In this dialogue:- Where is the Utopia that the internet promised?- “Neither nostalgia nor utopia”- Net Neutrality is a moral stance- Where did the internet go wrong?- Tech as a tool; is tech always neutral?- Technology that increases agency VS tech that enslaves- Competition vs Symbiosis- “Who will run the mints?”- “Anyone” can use it vs “everyone” can use it- Centralizing vs. Monopolizing- Bitcoin has an ethos baked in (You Shall Not Steal)- Passive internet vs active internet- Agency in cyberspace, and how to maximize it- Blinded custodian vs regular custodian- User data is a liability- Obscura / Mullvad / Silent.Link as obvious early adopters- Run your own ISP - Tollgate- Cryptography is Not Enough- Bitcoin is Time- Time requires heat- Zero-knowledge service providers- Electronic Cash vs Digital Cash (CBDCs)- Credit requires KYC, KYC implies outside enforcement- Writings on Micropayments by Nick Szabo- eCash fixes 402, obviously- Who Owns the Future?- “You are the product” vs “Subscription Hell”- “Hello old friend!!!”- Cathedral vs Bazaar- Why paywalls suck- Information wants to be free- "Markets become absurd as supply approaches infinity."- eCash + AI = match made in heaven- #LearnToCode vs #LearnToPrompt- Scarcity in cyberspace: compute, storage, networking- Zero-Knowledge compute & zero-knowledge proofs- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof- https://github.com/AbdelStark/cashu-zk-engine- Cairo: https://github.com/starkware-libs/cairo- MCP https://github.com/AbdelStark/bitcoin-mcp- MCP DVM: https://github.com/r0d8lsh0p/n8n-AI-agent-DVM-MCP-client- DVMCP: https://mcp.so/server/dvmcp- Olas & Nutzaps (NIP-60, NIP-61)- Bitcoin is not only the internet of money, but it is the money of the internet- Re-building the internet archive on top of nostr- Bitrot & 404- Resurrection markets & marketplace for hashes via Blossom- Hugs 🫂 Related dialogues: #03: Data Ownership is a Lie w/ Pablo #12: The Windy Lawnmower Stuff w/ Pete #20: Archipelago Meshtadels w/ Shadrach #29: State of the Mint and Mind w/ Calle Recorded at 887,039.