How are humans involved in the overall AI process? 23andMe suffers another data leak by hacker "Golem". And the Meta Quest 3 is being used publicly for hilarious and interesting results.

• Solana Larsen of the Mozilla Foundation and the IRL Podcast joins the show to talk about human beings, the data workers behind AI systems being used daily.
• Dave Karpf stops by to talk about Marc Andreessen's "The Techno-Optimist Manifesto" and his passionate response to Andreessen's manifesto and the line between tech optimism and pessimism.
• Mikah talks about another data leak from the 23andMe breach that includes data from "the wealthiest people living in the U.S. and Western Europe."
• And Jason shares some hilarious videos from a Verge article about the Meta Quest 3 being used publicly.

Hosts: Jason Howell and Mikah Sargent

Guests: Solana Larsen and Dave Karpf

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