This episode has been bleeped and can be heard with the kids around. Please note it contains references to self-harm.

Homeschooled from the age of 11, the eldest of 8 kids, Caitlin Moran wrote the bestselling 'How To Be A Woman' and recently wrote the screenplay of the similarly bestselling book 'How To Build A Girl'. 

In this pre-lockdown discussion with Annie, the Times columnist discusses her two biggest changes in her life - including growing up without that formal education, her regret at how she acted as a young music journalist, pornography and how mucking about will save us all.

How To Build A Girl stars Beanie Feldstein and Alfie Allen and will be available to stream from May 8. You can follow Caitlin on twitter, where she is at her absolute best, @caitlinmoran

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