Writer Andrea Freeman, a pioneer in food politics, talks to Mark and Kate about the history of food politics, from colonization to slavery to the Americanization of immigrant food culture; how the way we operate now is rooted in these practices; how Big Food has figured out how to meet kids where they are at any given point in time—from television to TikTok; and how oppression in the US has shaped cultural norms to make racial health disparities appear natural—and, as a result, impossible to solve through government interference.

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