I had a very fun and insightful chat with two close friends and fellow besean co-founders, Kai and Amy! We talk about calling in versus calling out, how we wore sunglasses that shielded ray-cism (lol), our advocacy work at besean, how they find #eseajoy, the play-by-play of White guilt, how we desperately wanna be genz! 
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