The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by ESPN's Stephen A. Smith to discuss balancing the workload during the NBA season, Stephen's departure from ESPN in 2009, 'First Take,' the parameters of athlete criticism, Damian Lillard's quest to play in Miami, the state of the Knicks, and much more!

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Stephen A. Smith

Producer: Kyle Crichton

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