Kara and Scott talk Apple Vision Pro, Disney’s failed lawsuit against Ron DeSantis, and a $100 million deal for the Smartless podcast. Also, will Elon Musk move Tesla to Texas after a Delaware judge voided his $55 billion compensation package? Plus, the upshot of the social media companies' CEOs' testimonies on child safety. Our Friend of Pivot is New York Times reporter Conor Dougherty, who stops by to talk about his piece on the Silicon Valley bigwigs trying to build a city in California.

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