The Ringer's Bill Simmons quickly hits on some sports stories, including Shai Gilgeous-Alexander's FIBA presence, and Mookie Betts's MVP case (1:16) before he is joined by Michael Lombardi to discuss the 49ers trading Trey Lance to the Cowboys, and just how big of a "what-if" trading up for Lance was for the Niners in the first place (7:44). Then, they discuss long shot NFL playoff teams (32:09), before talking about Michael's new book, 'Football Done Right: Setting the Record Straight on the Coaches, Players, and History of the NFL,' available September 5th (1:15:39).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Michael Lombardi

Producer: Kyle Crichton

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