Kathy Ginn shares her inspiring journey from a military background to a career in massage therapy. She discusses building confidence and the importance of connection and ethics in her work. Kathy introduces the creation of Ethical Dimensions and her Hakomi training, emphasizing understanding laws, regulations, and ethics in the field. The conversation highlights her book writing journey and key insights, focusing on the power of listening presence and integrating gratitude into daily life. Kathy offers her closing thoughts and discusses upcoming plans before the episode wraps up with sponsor mentions.

About Kathy: Kathy Ginn has been a dedicated practitioner and educator in massage therapy and bodywork since 1991. As the founder of 4 Rivers Center for Well Being in Oconomowoc, WI, she brings over 30 years of experience, blending her expertise with advanced training in the Hakomi method of Body-Centered Experiential Therapy.

A passionate ethics educator, grief companion, and end-of-life care doula, Kathy is also the author of The Soul of Ethical Service. She is deeply committed to transforming how ethics is understood in healing professions, guiding practitioners to see ethics as a path of self-discovery and healing rather than just a set of guidelines.

As a member of the Right Use of Power Teacher’s Guild, Kathy has served on the NCBTMB Ethics Committee, contributed to Massage Magazine, and taught both nationally and locally for over 25 years. Through her heart-centered approach, she makes ethical education an engaging, dynamic, and deeply meaningful experience.

🔗 Website: ethicaldimensions.com 📖 Book: https://shorturl.at/aAgqz

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(0:00) Introduction by Ryan Hall (1:17) Guest introduction: Kathy Ginn and early life (3:25) Kathy’s journey from military to massage therapy (14:58) Building confidence and teaching in massage therapy (19:02) The role of connection and ethics in Kathy's career (28:48) Ethical Dimensions creation and Hakomi training (32:43) Understanding laws, regulations, and ethics (38:24) Kathy Ginn's book writing journey (42:25) Key insights from Kathy's book (46:02) The power of listening presence (53:16) Integrating gratitude in life (56:03) Closing thoughts with Kathy Ginn (58:05) Interview wrap-up and what's next for Kathy (1:00:09) Outro and sponsor mentions