Kara and guest host Baratunde Thurston talk about TikTok's CEO Kevin Mayer stepping down amid tensions with the Trump administration. They also discuss Palantir, the controversial data-mining company filing to go public and using their S-1 to throw shade at the rest of Silicon Valley. In listener mail, we get a question about a new cable news program. Baratunde predicts there will be more grief to deal with in our country in the months to come.

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