Politics podcast presenter Steve Richards talks to Jacob Jarvis about the Shakespearean downfall of Rishi Sunak, the gilded youth who finds he’s not up to this titanic task. Plus: Is appearing as brutal as the Conservatives the right strategy for Labour? The weakness of Starmer’s language. And the patronising futility of TV debates. 

• “Sunak has tried on so many guises, he doesn’t know who he is now.” 

• “In Grimsby Sunak just looked crushed… It must be tormenting him that he’s leading his party towards doom.” 

• “When we see people as losers, everything we see of them reinforces that.”

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Presented by Jacob Jarvis. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Theme music by Cornershop. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.

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