Marty sits down with Pierre Rochard to discuss bitcoin rewriting the financial industry.

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0:00 - Intro

0:36- Casinos, burrito financing and defi

12:20 - Fold & Coinkite

13:57 - Recapitalizing with better collateral

24:01 - Can bitcoin cure the degens?

32:30 - Unchained

33:31 - Smoothing volatility and lending against bitcoin

42:23 - Inter-operability for the smoothbrains

47:48 - Political engagement

58:27 - Trump's crypto EO & President Kamala

1:05:09 - Leaving crypto behind

1:15:42 - Letting people touch the stove

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