In this episode, I welcomed Mark Goodwin back to the show, and we went deep on Phish’s recent run—why it felt so fresh, so generous, and, at times, almost unbelievable. We talked about Mark falling hard back into the band through couch tour, the way Phish has been finding new jam spaces inside songs that were never traditional vehicles, and how the MSG “90s shows” captured both nostalgia and genuinely high-level playing. We also got into standout moments from the run, including the jammed-out versions of “Bouncing Around the Room,” “Horn,” “Cross-Eyed and Painless,” “Drowned,” “Harry Hood,” “The Wedge,” and the Fenway “Fuego” into “Melt the Guns.”Along the way, we riffed on what makes this era of Phish feel different: the band’s ease, confidence, risk-taking, and uncanny ability to snap into improvisation as a single unit. We also veered into Big Cypress, the Grateful Dead’s live-taping culture, the shifting state of the jam scene, and why bands like Umphrey’s feel different after key lineup changes. By the end, the big question was whether Phish will continue the MSG year-by-year time-travel theme into their next run—and, as always, we came away amazed that after all this time, this band can still pull us all the way back in.